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Kathleen Funchion urges action on south-east day service transport

Kathleen Funchion urges action on south-east day service transport

Kathleen Funchion raised concerns about adult day services and transport in the south-east, citing a Kilkenny SOS case and problems at a service in New Ross. She asked the minister to investigate an individual SOS case, to confirm recent funding for Camas Services in New Ross, and to meet with parents.

Kilkenny SOS transport case


An individual SOS user in Kilkenny returned to day services at two days a week after reopening, but the family report that transport is no longer available. The user’s elderly mother has been driving her daughter 80 kilometres daily to keep her in the service, and Deputy Funchion said she will send the minister the case details for follow-up.

Camas Services funding confirmed by the minister


The minister said he visited Camas Services in New Ross and has been engaged with providers about transport concerns. He confirmed that Camas was allocated €147,652 at the end of November to address the transport issues raised since September, with a December payment planned; this is a once-off additional allocation from the current disability services budget and from additional monies secured in September.

Service capacity and transport impacts


The minister outlined that adult day services reopened in August and early September at approximately 39% capacity and that he secured funding to increase provision by an average of one day a week for over 14,000 adult day service users. Reduced capacity is attributed to social distancing, building limitations and the lack of mainstream community activities, which has increased demand for more and safer transport journeys. The minister noted the HSE has no statutory obligation to provide transport but that some transport supports are provided or funded on a discretionary basis, including Local Link, and that disability service users generally hold the free travel pass.

Kathleen Funchion — frame from remarks: Kathleen Funchion urges action on south-east day service transport (09.12.2020)

Follow-up and meetings with families


The minister said he will work with the deputy on the individual SOS case and is willing to meet with parents, including by Zoom, alongside other Oireachtas members. He suggested meeting with CH05 representatives to review funding allocation, rollout and supports for providers to secure a sustainable resumption of services.

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Minister, and now thank you Deputy Function, sorry about that delay, thank you Minister. Thanks very much Chair and thanks Minister, so the issue is in relation to adult day services in the disability sector and transport in particular to regions in the south east, so there is a service in New Ross in Wexford and then the SOS in Kilkenny, I will start with the SOS, that is one particular situation or case that has come to my attention where there was transport for a particular individual prior to COVID, now that it's reopened, this person is on just two days a week, but the issue is the transport, so the transport is no longer available or doesn't seem to be accessible for this family, the situation is an elderly mother driving her daughter to the day service and it's actually daily an 80 kilometre trip for her to do that, now obviously she wants to keep her daughter in the service and it's very valuable to her, but realistically it's not going to be possible for her to keep up with that level of driving on a daily basis, so Minister I'm asking if you would specifically look into this case, if I send you on the details in relation to that one, and then the issue with Cumis in New Ross is there was issues that I think you might be aware of regarding transport, and I do believe that some funding was announced recently about that, but maybe if you could just confirm exactly what that funding was for, how much that funding was, and also if you would consider meeting with parents of people who use that service, I know the way things are with COVID now, but even an online meeting to discuss the situation with them, I know that they would certainly definitely welcome that since COVID has happened, they have sort of a bit of an active parents committee, they've gotten together over lots of issues, and I suppose one thing that we've all learned from COVID is how we can manage situations for into the future better and forward planning, and that there isn't this sort of what are we going to do approach when something does unforeseen happen, so I suppose just in relation to Cumis, if you can confirm what the funding was, what it was for, and if you would be willing to chat to those parents, they would definitely welcome that, and then in relation to the SOS in Kilkenny, that one particular case, that individual case, that I can pass on to you, thanks. Minister. Minister. Minister. Minister. Thank you Chair, and yet again I want to apologise for my delay in getting here. Thank you Deputy Function for raising this issue today, and in relation to the case in SOS, I have no problem at all in taking that particular representation from you and talking to you about this. But I do want to thank you for raising the important issue and giving me the opportunity to outline the position in relation to the resumption of adult day services and transport in CH05 area of South Tipper area, Carlock, Kilkenny, Waterford and Wexford. Adult day services reopened throughout August and early September at approximately 39 per cent capacity. I have secured, as you are well aware, the funding to increase the day services by an average of one day a week for over 14,000 adult day service users. Some service providers are now working so that the services operate safely and in line with the public health guidelines. This has led to a reduced capacity in day services due to the need for social distancing, the physical limitations of buildings and the lack of mainstream community activities currently available. The public health guidelines which was developed to underpin the safe reopening of the adult day services has also had an impact on the transport to day services. Although the HSE has no statutory obligation to provide transport services, some transport supports are provided by the HSE or funded through agencies on a discretionary basis. This can include services themselves providing transport and local transport such as Local Link. Generally, disability service users are in receipt of a disability allowance and are automatically entitled to the free pass. Now that the day services have reopened, the availability of the safe transport is essential. However, reduced capacity on vehicles means more journeys are needed and in the form of service locations for these needed. As the service has resumed, transport providers have had to demonstrate that their transport service can be provided as safely as possible and strictly within social distancing. In relation to the area you have raised, which is Camas Services in New Ross, which I visited recent months ago and I met with the providers, with Deputy James Brown and Senator Malcolm Byrne. The transport issue, and they have raised, no more than your good self here today, raising the issue in relation to transport. I am glad to confirm that they were allocated, Camas were allocated €147,652 at the end of November to address the transport issues that were raised with me since September. And this will be allocated in December payment to the provider. This is a once off additional funding for transport has been provided from within the current budget for disability services, and from additional monies I secured in September to support the resumption of services. Finally, I do understand the issue of that individual case again, Deputy Function. I have no problem in working with you on it. In relation to asking me would I meet with the families, of course I will meet with the families. I would be more than happy to attend a Zoom call, along with other Oireachtas colleagues as well who would like to be on it. I think it's also an important opportunity as well that maybe yourself and other Oireachtas members down there, that we meet with the CH05 to understand the funding allocation, to understand the rollout, to understand the support that they will give to service providers going into the new year, that we can have a sustainable resumption of services, but also the proper link, which is the transport piece, to assure the families that that connectivity that they require is in place, particularly in light of the fact that there's 145,000 laid aside there for transport. Thank you, Minister. Now Deputy Function. Thanks, Chair and thanks, Minister. I really genuinely welcome that response. I think you've been very honest and very sincere. I'm glad that you would be willing to meet with the parents in that area. They would be absolutely delighted with that. It's an excellent suggestion around meeting with the CH05. I couldn't agree with that more because it does sort of bring them into it. In terms of accountability as well for them, I think that might be no harm. I do understand with COVID, you know, the restrictions on how difficult it has been and getting services resumed, but I suppose for a lot of families with either children with disabilities or as children get older and they're going into today's services or adult services, I should say, people are, I suppose, looking at the school situation and how it's been great that we've been able to reopen the schools and resume them. But, you know, people are kind of looking at that and saying, if we can get it right in that sector, then why can't we get it right in other sectors? So, look, I do think I'll pass on the details of that individual case and follow up directly with you on that one. I appreciate that. And it would be great to have to organise that meeting and include CH05 officials. So I'm happy with that. Thanks very much, Minister. Thank you, Deputy Function Minister. Deputy Function, which I couldn't get in on the first part, I have a little bit more information. Since being appointed Minister for Disabilities, as you know, I have visited that particular area, thanks to my Oireachtas colleagues and I also met with Deputy Kyogh when I was down there as well at the time. They have been continuously campaigning in relation to the areas you have brought up here today. And that is in relation to transport and the vastness of the area and the need for it. So, so much so, I have actually met also with Minister Ryan on this particular issue and his department officials. And I met that meeting on the basis of what Minister Malcolm Noonan presented to me of what is a very well-run local link service in that particular area. And as part of Connecting Ireland, we are now looking at one of the first models that we will be rolling out, will be in that particular area because of the good services that are there already in relation to the local link. It has still been put through its paces to see exactly where it will sit and how it will run and how it will be functioning. But when you start to start with one of the better models, of which we have there is in the Carlow area, and we would be hoping to expand it out into other areas and to include disability services. One thing is for certain, while you have a great local link, we have, Chair right across the country, a very good local link. Local link is 85% suitable for persons with disability to use it. We now need to ensure that a person with a disability can actually get on the local link. And that's a piece that might have been missing in the past. So, the fact that we have a very good local link there, we're looking at delivering it out to include areas of disability. Thank you.