Brian Stanley demands clarity from housing trust on Leash tenancies

I've just been late, I was just caught in the Dáil, and just welcome the witnesses. Look, the reports that have what has come tonight so far is damning as what's said the least. I know the effort's been made now to get on top of that. I hope that can happen and that the Macfairia Trust can get back on track. I know that you've done good work in the past, you know, and continue to do good work, and that needs to be acknowledged as well. Could I just ask you, my asks are small. So just in relation to, coming from down the country, I have a very hazy picture of what actually, a lot of what the agency, how it operates and what it does. So in recent years you have started operating in Leash, and you may not have the figures, Noel, off the top of your, I don't expect you to have them, but you might come back to me with these, that in relation to the number of tenancies you have in Leash, and the number of them that are tenanted at the moment, okay, the locations of them, and the nature of your tenure, you know, are the leased or are the purchase properties. I know you have ten leased in Gorton and Orin Abbey Leakes from Reespond, and I just have a question about that in a minute. And just, you know, what other locations have you got them in in Leash? So the number of tenancies, the number of them that are tenanted, the locations, you know, if the tenancies are by way of a lease from a private individual or individuals, or from a housing association, or are they owned by McTrackery Trust, I don't know. So, and that's the, but also, one piece that's missing is that trying to get in contact with somebody from the Beat McBurdy Trust, from Leash point of view, not just speaking for myself, but in order to have tried, it turned out to be mission impossible. So if you could send us a contact number, we mainly don't need to contact you once every two or three years, but we don't have a number. And the public expect us, when they can't get any good with something, they expect us to be able to talk to somebody, and communication is very important. You know, communication may have led to some of the problems that you have at the moment, you know, internally, you know, and it does cause problems, cause a lot of problems for us. There have been some problems with the Abbey Leaks operation. Now, it hasn't been all bad, but the biggest problem is that when there was problems, there isn't, it's very difficult to sort it out or to get anybody, because the local authority, as you understand it, you might clarify this, the local authority generally put forward tenants for you to accept or reject, and generally they're agreed between you. You might just confirm that that's operating, because you're a charity, are you an approved housing body, the same as registered, are you registered approved housing body, because you're under examination by the regulator, the approved housing body regulator, so you are one of those. So, are your tenants coming with recommendation from the housing officer in Leash County Council or not? Just a short answer. The ones that you don't have an answer, tell me that, and I'll give you my card, and you can send me, I'll be happy enough to receive them in a week or a fortnight. I won't answer the question just a little bit more broadly, just for clarity purposes. So, outside of Dublin, Peter McVeary Trust delivers supports under the Housing First programme, under an additional 10 counties. So, that is made up of the Midlands, the Mideast and the North East. So, in relation to Leash, we have a combination of properties that are owned by Peter McVeary Trust, leased, and in addition to that, we also have a number of properties that are provided by the local authority, in which Housing First supports are delivered directly into. I just want to come back to you in relation to the query about, you know, the nomination process or the assessment process into the programme. So, the majority of individuals that are actually referred into the Housing First programme do come directly through the local authority. We would have a small number of individuals that may come from other areas, you know, in terms of whether it be probation or otherwise, but the majority of which would come directly through the local authority. So, if your probation would nominate them to you? A very, very small number. Yes. Well, you can come back to me on the breakdown of that, but also the, you know, the tenancies, who owns, who actually owns the premises, and many of, you know, the number, the ones that she have, that Peter McVeary owned, the number that are leased and where they are, because sometimes there are houses in the States and this causes a problem, and if there's an issue, no-one knows who owns them. That can be a problem. And a contact as well, just one contact, which we may need, you know, I'm only saying that, only once in the last five years, I could have done my contact for the Peter McVeary Trust in County, which would have health matters. You know, so if you can send me an email, I'm on the Eroctis email, Brian.StanleyOIR.ie, all right? Absolutely. Thanks very much. Thank you, Brian.