Martin Daly raises alarm over $4.3bn medical litigation bill
Martin Daly pressed the minister on rising state medical litigation costs and asked about progress implementing Professor Ron O'Mahony's September 2024 report, citing a $4.3 billion liability and lengthy delays. The minister disclosed a personal family connection to the claims process and called for greater hospital accountability, openness and support for affected families.
Daly highlighted that the state's overall liability at the end of 2024 stands at $4.3 billion and pointed to extremely long case timelines. He said Ireland averages 1,462 days to bring a claim to court or settlement and argued this is substantially longer and costlier than comparator jurisdictions including the UK, Hong Kong, Singapore and Malaysia.
Daly asked what the department is doing to implement Professor Ron O'Mahony's report from September 2024 and noted the supplementary budget position. The minister acknowledged the report's work but said it is not necessarily a panacea, raising specific questions about accountability within maternity hospitals and their board structures.
The minister declared a personal interest, revealing a child with a neonatal brain injury who is going through the state claims process, and said this gives them direct experience of the system. They also said they have met women involved in UCC research to better understand patient experience and emphasised that no parent wants to be in the litigation system.
The minister pointed to elements already in place, such as dedicated lists and mediation, and noted programme-for-government proposals like a dedicated medical negligence course. They argued the greater need is a cultural shift - openness, acknowledgement of wrongdoing where it occurs, mental health and care planning for affected families, and proactive hospital investigation and responsiveness, with interventions where patterns produce adverse outcomes such as in Port Junkia.
Rising costs and delays
Daly highlighted that the state's overall liability at the end of 2024 stands at $4.3 billion and pointed to extremely long case timelines. He said Ireland averages 1,462 days to bring a claim to court or settlement and argued this is substantially longer and costlier than comparator jurisdictions including the UK, Hong Kong, Singapore and Malaysia.
Questions on implementation of the O'Mahony report
Daly asked what the department is doing to implement Professor Ron O'Mahony's report from September 2024 and noted the supplementary budget position. The minister acknowledged the report's work but said it is not necessarily a panacea, raising specific questions about accountability within maternity hospitals and their board structures.
Minister's personal disclosure and engagement with research
The minister declared a personal interest, revealing a child with a neonatal brain injury who is going through the state claims process, and said this gives them direct experience of the system. They also said they have met women involved in UCC research to better understand patient experience and emphasised that no parent wants to be in the litigation system.
Calls for cultural change and better supports in maternity services
The minister pointed to elements already in place, such as dedicated lists and mediation, and noted programme-for-government proposals like a dedicated medical negligence course. They argued the greater need is a cultural shift - openness, acknowledgement of wrongdoing where it occurs, mental health and care planning for affected families, and proactive hospital investigation and responsiveness, with interventions where patterns produce adverse outcomes such as in Port Junkia.
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Transcript
I'd like to focus in on one area because I have real concerns around it. It's an area that sort of goes, it's sort of silent, and it's a silent increase in cost to the health service, and that's the state's claims agency and medical indemnity and medical litigation. Now, I know that it has peaked off in terms of what you've applied for in the supplementary budget, but I'd really like to ask you about the progress of the implementation of Professor Ron O'Mahony's report from September 2024. I mean, there's a huge cost here. Our overall liability end of 2024 is $4.3 billion. It's a huge amount of money, and that's notwithstanding the validity of claims or of the medical professions who are defending those claims. It's a source of huge stress not just for the people who are bringing those claims because of the length of time. We're one of the longest countries in the world, 1,462 days, to bring a claim to court or to be settled, 50% higher than the UK, Hong Kong or Singapore, 26% more expensive than Singapore or 56% more than Malaysia, but 191% more expensive than our closest neighbour, the UK. Now, that is simply inexplicable. And I do think it's an area of huge cost to our health service, and I'm just wondering what are the department doing in terms of the implementation? Okay, so I think it's important that I declare an interest in this to the chair. I have a child who had a neonatal brain injury and who goes through the state claims process, so I am not just the Minister for Health but a parent in precisely that situation, and it's very important that I disclose that, although it is quite private, but it's important that it be understood. And so I do have personal understanding of this particular process and the interim steps and the way in which it is managed. I recognise the work of Professor Rona Mahoney. I have taken the time to try to meet some of the women who were behind the UCC research that was done in relation to that, to better understand their experience of the medical litigation scene. Can I say, first of all, that none of those people want to be in the system? There's not a single parent who is in that system that wants to be there. Every one of them would have rather enjoyed not having had that experience. And in every single case, they would like to avoid that for anybody else. So in relation to the report, I recognise that report, but I also recognise that it was chaired by somebody who was the Master of Maternity Hospital, where I repeatedly see events being presented in the court, including my own event presented in the court, and I have questions, and I had questions at the time, and I, you know, so I don't believe that that report is the panacea, necessarily. I have questions in relation to the accountability within hospitals. I recognise that many of those maternity hospitals are voluntary hospitals and that there is a board structure, and that accountability, and I mean real accountability, is considered in a different way. The real issue here is not about the implementation of a different issue. There's measures in the programme for government about a dedicated medical negligence course. We, in essence, already have that, because we have dedicated lists to this. We, in essence, already have mediation, but it's mediation that is essentially litigation by a different name. What we don't have is a culture yet, a real acknowledgement of wrongdoing, of anticipating the mental health implications of that, of anticipating the care implications of that, of supporting mothers and supporting babies who will have difficulty, and we just don't understand the nature of that difficulty yet. So, the programme for government goes beyond the implementation of this. Can I say that, as Minister, I have tried to begin a body of work in relation to this, but there is also so much else to do. There's also so much else that's urgent. What I really want to see from the maternity hospitals as leaders in this field is a very different attitude to openness, accountability, investigation and responsiveness and proactivity around wrapping their arms around women and babies who have had very adverse outcomes. You will be aware, of course, that this is particularly why it's so important that where I see patterns that are resulting in really adverse outcomes in Port Junkia or any other maternity system, that, of course, we have to take the interventions to protect women and babies. Thanks, Minister.