George Lawlor challenges employer veto on Joint Labour Committees
George Lawlor moved to introduce the Industrial Relations Boycott of Joint Labour Committees Bill 2025, arguing it will remove the employer veto that can block appointments to Joint Labour Committees. He said the bill seeks to restore the statutory machinery to establish JLCs where employer organisations refuse to engage with the Labour Court.
He traced the origin of statutory sectoral minimums to 1909, when a system of trade boards was created to protect workers in sweated industries with chronically low pay and weak union representation. He said the purpose was to provide guaranteed statutory minimum pay and conditions and to prevent downwards wage competition, invoking Winston Churchill's formulation about the good employer being undercut by the bad.
He summarised how the Industrial Relations Act 1946 set out the composition of joint labour committees, with the Minister appointing independent members and the Labour Court appointing representative members for employers and workers. He emphasised that representative members were appointed to represent a side of industry and that the Minister retained the power of appointment after consultation and the submission of names.
He outlined judicial review proceedings brought a decade earlier by the Irish Hotels Federation challenging a Ministerial decision to reconstitute a JLC for the hotel sector. He said the State's position in that litigation—that a JLC could not be established or operated without employer representative nominations—meant the case was struck out and left an assumption that employer non-cooperation could stymie JLC appointments, creating a de facto employer veto.
He argued the bill is designed to clear the impasse created by the requirement for voluntary agreement by both sides of industry, particularly in sectors where worker organisation is weak or absent. He said that if JLCs now require the voluntary participation of both sides, the century-old machinery intended to intervene in poorly organised sectors has effectively collapsed, and the proposed legislation seeks to address that collapse.
He noted the current stated position that setting up a JLC requires cooperation from both sides of industry, and warned that where employers are sufficiently organised they can prevent a JLC by refusing to engage. He concluded that the bill aims to restore the ability to establish JLCs in the sectors the original legislation targeted.
Historical background
He traced the origin of statutory sectoral minimums to 1909, when a system of trade boards was created to protect workers in sweated industries with chronically low pay and weak union representation. He said the purpose was to provide guaranteed statutory minimum pay and conditions and to prevent downwards wage competition, invoking Winston Churchill's formulation about the good employer being undercut by the bad.
Legal framework and appointment process
He summarised how the Industrial Relations Act 1946 set out the composition of joint labour committees, with the Minister appointing independent members and the Labour Court appointing representative members for employers and workers. He emphasised that representative members were appointed to represent a side of industry and that the Minister retained the power of appointment after consultation and the submission of names.
Judicial review and emergence of an employer veto
He outlined judicial review proceedings brought a decade earlier by the Irish Hotels Federation challenging a Ministerial decision to reconstitute a JLC for the hotel sector. He said the State's position in that litigation—that a JLC could not be established or operated without employer representative nominations—meant the case was struck out and left an assumption that employer non-cooperation could stymie JLC appointments, creating a de facto employer veto.
Purpose and consequences of the bill
He argued the bill is designed to clear the impasse created by the requirement for voluntary agreement by both sides of industry, particularly in sectors where worker organisation is weak or absent. He said that if JLCs now require the voluntary participation of both sides, the century-old machinery intended to intervene in poorly organised sectors has effectively collapsed, and the proposed legislation seeks to address that collapse.
Current government stance and practical impact
He noted the current stated position that setting up a JLC requires cooperation from both sides of industry, and warned that where employers are sufficiently organised they can prevent a JLC by refusing to engage. He concluded that the bill aims to restore the ability to establish JLCs in the sectors the original legislation targeted.
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Transcript
I move that Leigh be granted to introduce a bill entitled Industrial Relations Boycott of Joint Labour Committees, Bill 2025, an act to amend the provisions relating to the constitution of Joint Labour Committees so as to provide for cases where organisations of employers or of workers fail or refuse to engage in consultation with the Labour Court prior to the appointment of employers represented as members or workers represented as members as the case may be and to provide for connected matters. With regard to the purpose of the bill, a system for guaranteed statutory minimum pay and conditions for employment sectors was established more than a century ago in 1909. The purpose was to improve terms of employment in the sweated industries where pay was chronically low and union representation was either non-existent or inadequate. The purpose was to set up bargaining bodies in low-wage sectors where the industrial actors were insufficiently organised. These bodies could then set binding minimum wages and conditions across the sector. The importance of industry-wide enforcement to prevent undercutting was an essential feature of the legislation. The goal was explicitly to reduce downwards wage competition, where, in the words of Winston Churchill when then introducing the first Trade Board's bill, the good employer is undercut by the bad and the bad employer is undercut by the worst. Since that time, the law has maintained this twin-track approach to collective bargaining. On the one hand, there were sectors where trade unions were able to organise effectively. While collective bargaining was encouraged as a matter of policy, the State did not, in those sectors, impose the forms in which collective bargaining should take place. But, on the other hand, compulsory machinery for collective bargaining through the mechanism of trade boards and subsequently joint labour committees was reserved for sectors in which existing organisation was very weak or non-existent. Clearly, the representative members were there to represent a particular side, but under the regulations, the power of appointment was always the Minister's, with the right of two sides of industry being a right to be consulted and to supply names for consideration before the appointments were made. A representative member, therefore, was never representative in the sense of being an elected representative. He was a member who represented the interests of his side. The Industrial Relations Act 1946 allows for the Minister to apply for a JLC establishment order where the existing machinery for effective regulation or enumeration and other conditions of employment of such workers is inadequate or is likely to cease or cease to be adequate. Or, having regard to the existing rates of enumeration or conditions of employment of such workers or any of them, it is expedient that a joint labour committee should be established. A JLC was to consist of the Minister's appointees as independent members, plus representative members appointed by the Labour Court, being employees' representatives and an equal number of representative members who, in the opinion of the Court, represent workers in relation to whom the committee is to operate. However, following the judicial review proceedings brought a decade ago by the Irish Hotels Federation against the Minister's decision to reconstitute a JLC for the hotel sector, matters now stand on a very different footing. The Minister's statement of opposition to the hotelier's case asserted that a JLC could not be established or operated in the absence of employer representative nominations. The State argued that the decision to come together under a JLC framework was a matter for the two sides of industry and was not compulsory. On that basis, the legal proceedings were struck out. So, the case ended before it reached the Court, because of a shared assumption that the non-cooperation of an employer representative body would effectively stymie the appointment of representative members to a JLC. In short, there was an employer's veto. On this understanding, it follows that in any sector of industry where there is little or no worker organisation and representation, but there is an employer representative body, that representative body can prevent the establishment of a JLC by not turning up to the negotiation table, even though these are the very sectors which the legislation has always targeted for intervention. If it is now the law that a JLC cannot be appointed without the voluntary agreement and participation of bodies representing both sides, then this is a dramatic collapse of machinery that has been working for over a century and which was aimed precisely at sectors where representative bodies were not to be found. The current situation is that the current situation is that the process of setting up a JLC is stated by the government to require the cooperation of both sides of industry and so the employer side, if sufficiently organised, can exercise a veto. Our bill is aimed at clearing away that impasse. Goedemiddag.