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Paul Murphy Challenges Minister Over Undeclared Poster Donations

Paul Murphy Challenges Minister Over Undeclared Poster Donations

Paul Murphy challenged the minister over alleged undeclared donations and the handling of election poster placements, saying he does not trust the minister and demanding answers. He questioned whether payments for posters and a van donation amounted to undeclared or illegal donations and asked whether the minister would resign if SIPO found breaches.

Questions on poster payments


Paul Murphy asked whether workers putting up the minister's election posters were paid by the designer group and, if not, how they were paid. He pressed whether labour provided by the designer group could constitute a corporate donation and asked how many posters were put up and by whom.

Values and timing of donations


Murphy pointed to a series of coincidences in declared values - a van donation valued at 140 euro (below a 200 euro threshold), poster work listed as 917 euro from an individual, and a combined total of 1,057 euro recorded to a Fine Gael branch. He noted those figures affected reporting requirements and could have made the donations undeclarable or illegal under different timing or accounting.

Accountability and resignation demand


He directly asked whether the minister would resign should SIPO find rule breaches, questioning the credibility of the minister remaining responsible for SIPO with an adverse finding. Murphy said the minister's public commitment to answer questions was theoretical because the minister had said he would not comment further to avoid prejudicing SIPO.

Allegations of cronyism and wider concerns


Murphy alleged a reciprocal network between developers and establishment figures - citing a private developer and the head of the CIF helping with postering and a subsequent appointment to the LDA board and continued state contracts. He said he knew of a case where a councillor was offered poster support in return for a rezoning vote and suggested other TDs might have received undeclared poster donations.

Paul Murphy — frame from speech: Paul Murphy Challenges Minister Over Undeclared Poster Donations (18.01.2023)

Procedure and credibility issues


Murphy criticised the government for blocking a genuine question-and-answer session and accused the minister of concocting an after-the-fact story to minimise apparent rule breaches. He said these elements undermined confidence and demanded clear answers in the House.

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Transcript
Earlier on, the Taoiseach told us, I believe Pascal Donoghue is somebody we can trust, and somebody I believe, deep down, everyone in this House knows that. Well, I looked deep down, Count Corle, and I have to say I don't know that. I don't trust the Minister, I don't trust the fact that the Government has blocked a real question and answer session here, and I don't believe the story that has been concocted after the fact in order to try to avoid as many rule breaches as he can. And the Taoiseach also told us that Minister Donoghue was happy to answer questions, but earlier the Minister said you're not going to be making any further comments after this to avoid prejudicing SIPO, so it's a theoretical commitment to answer questions. But I want to ask some questions, and I do want answers. Were the workers who were putting up your election posters being paid by the designer group at the time they were putting up the posters? If not, how were they being paid? How can workers working for the designer group putting up posters during the day not be a corporate donation from the designer group? How can someone paying to get posters of you up for your election campaign not be a donation to your election campaign? If the designer group put up only 150 posters at a snail's pace, how many other posters did you get put up, and how did you get them up? I also want to ask the Minister if he accepts that he's an extraordinarily fortunate man, and I wonder whether that good luck transfers into other aspects of your life. Because there's a series of very happy coincidences in terms of the values that are placed on various donations that you got here. The value of the van donation at 140 euro an amount that is below the 200 euro requirement for corporate donors. The value of the work, putting the posters up at 917 euros from an individual, so also not triggering the need for a corporate donor to be registered and reported. The fact that both of these donations together amounted to 1,057 euros are donations to the Fine Gael branch rather than your personal election campaign. Again, very fortunate, because if it was a two-year campaign, it would be an illegal donation above the 1,000 euro limit. As it's at a parity, as it's less than 1,500 euros, it doesn't even need to be declared. Are you normally that lucky, Minister? Minister, will you resign if SIPO finds that you breached the rules here? Or do you think it's credible that you can continue as the Minister responsible for SIPO and with a finding against you? Anybody who follows what has gone on here can see what happened. This is an I-scratch-your-back-you-scratch-my-back situation. A friend, private developer, head of the CIF, helps you out with postering and illegal corporate donation. He gets the chair of the North East Inner City Initiative, gets appointed to the board of the LDA, continues to get large state contracts. A tight, golden circle of establishment politicians and big business looking out for each other. You're caught out, questions are asked, you deny it, it's published and you concoct a story after the fact with entirely implausible elements. I also want to say I don't think this is the only example of that. I know of one case where a PBP councillor was asked by a developer to vote for rezoning of land and was told, you vote for this, I'll get all your election posters up for you. Of course, we didn't have anything to do with that. But I suspect there are other TDs in this House who have had posters erected as a donation and have not declared it. Thank you very much, Deputy Barr.